tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-77745945549784187.post8275030648294773078..comments2023-07-29T03:11:22.933-07:00Comments on L.A. - Madrid Files: America is Spain's Crystal Ball; The Spanish Education SystemCarlhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01428125225806322948noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-77745945549784187.post-35160606061827633322008-05-14T20:53:00.000-07:002008-05-14T20:53:00.000-07:00Hi Anonymous,I agree that it is depressing that un...Hi Anonymous,<BR/><BR/>I agree that it is depressing that university graduates get 500 or 1000 Euros a month after all that work. And of course, Kids that go on to the University are different. They want to work - usually. <BR/><BR/>I am mostly referring to younger kids. But I still say that the "hungry" ones, or those whose parents really instill a drive to succeed and work hard, will do better. This is what is happening in the U.S. The immigrants are kicking are asses - and that's all right with me!Carlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01428125225806322948noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-77745945549784187.post-68084218883060476292008-05-14T11:35:00.000-07:002008-05-14T11:35:00.000-07:00I' m really sorry to hear about that. I' m in Span...I' m really sorry to hear about that. I' m in Spanish school and I can say - cause i'm living it- that not everybody is lazy an fat, and that not everybody prefers being stupid. And it's not the same south Spain students or North Students. Many people is working very hard to go university (I would like to know the marks american students need to go university, but in Spain are very high in many of them).<BR/>And people should realise that is very different in lots of countries. I know people of my age of other countries of Europe, and in many subjects there are many things that they don' t have to study and I have to. For example, PISA programme about school learning is not fair with that difference.<BR/>Many students in Spain are working very hard to be what they want, and maybe they will just get for their work 500 euros each month. That is depressing, and many students prefer not going to university and start other jobs that will give them more money in less time without working as hard as people in university.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-77745945549784187.post-80953138059229986632008-02-12T07:20:00.000-08:002008-02-12T07:20:00.000-08:00I can't see how the permanent contract thing is a ...I can't see how the permanent contract thing is a good road to go down (because I have never experienced a "permanent" job). To me it's what keeps unemployment high, and production and innovation low. I still think a more "Californian model" is coming to Europe someday.Carlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01428125225806322948noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-77745945549784187.post-63277986222674488512008-02-12T02:18:00.000-08:002008-02-12T02:18:00.000-08:00Interesting. I think the things you describe are t...Interesting. I think the things you describe are true for much of Europe. I live in Ireland (pretty much like Spain except for the language and the lousy climate!) and I've observed the same things. A newly-rich indigenous population whose kids don't have any interest in education and who seem to expect it all 'on a plate' and the foreign nationals who come in determined to get the most out of everything available to them. Not true in every case, but a fair generalisation.<BR/>As to the job for life issue, I don't know the situation in Spain but you are pretty screwed here unless you have a permanent contract. That is assuming you want things like finance for a car, a mortgage or a credit card. Even if your credit record is good, reputable financial institutions won't lend to people on short-term (ie not forever)contracts.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-77745945549784187.post-26700223193224246752008-01-15T03:36:00.000-08:002008-01-15T03:36:00.000-08:00Hi, I´d like to introduce you to my blog. Pop up a...Hi, I´d like to introduce you to my blog. Pop up as often as you feel like.<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://www.salamanca-university.org" REL="nofollow">spanish course in spanish universities</A>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-77745945549784187.post-4075694210352097482008-01-06T14:29:00.000-08:002008-01-06T14:29:00.000-08:00I believe education can change and make the differ...I believe education can change and make the difference of the world.(eg. poverty, hunger, social diseases and other issues)<BR/><BR/>We have to realize the opportunity and freedom that was given to us easily and freely. Unfortunately many of us take it for granted.<BR/><BR/>Education starts from home. Just imagine that you(parents)are responsible for their(children) future in the society. Their success also depends on how you educate and guide them from the very beginning of their life.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-77745945549784187.post-12370454135553668882008-01-05T11:00:00.000-08:002008-01-05T11:00:00.000-08:00Just wanted to add that it is rough in the Spanish...Just wanted to add that it is rough in the Spanish job market, and these "fixed" jobs were the only ones out there. I believe that more liberalization of the labor laws will create more work. There would be no permanent jobs, which is scary to the Spanish, but there would be more jobs.Carlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01428125225806322948noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-77745945549784187.post-21894370690613967702008-01-05T10:28:00.000-08:002008-01-05T10:28:00.000-08:00Hi EuroMadrid,The whole "job for life” or “trabajo...Hi EuroMadrid,<BR/><BR/>The whole "job for life” or “trabajo fijo" aspiration is another big subject, one where Spain will learn from our experiences. Of course the “job for life” concept doesn’t exist for us (civil service excepted) but we did once have corporations that were loyal to their employees. My father worked for GM most of his adult life, something unheard of today.<BR/><BR/>Spain is still stuck on this concept though – a holdout from the Franco economy when there were no other types of jobs? I have seen many a Spanish person studying for “oposiciones” or tests that choose 1 person out of thousands for “trabajos fijos”. As you say, for most Americans this concept of staying in one job until you die is completely depressing.<BR/><BR/>I’m afraid the new economy that is (slowly) being created in Spain will require the Spanish to look out for themselves – just like we have to do in the U.S.Carlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01428125225806322948noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-77745945549784187.post-81975685090787852722008-01-04T23:21:00.000-08:002008-01-04T23:21:00.000-08:00The future you're predicting is going to be even w...The future you're predicting is going to be even worse for Spain, education wise, unless some radical unforeseen change rocks the current way of thinking. Between the nationalists wanting to educate their children only in the languages of their regions to the fact that Spanish universities, as a whole, do not have a world-class reputation for academic excellence nor are they striving to be among the world's top-tier universities, just means more inertia, more academic deadweight, more underperforming students and ultimately a less informed more insular civic society.<BR/><BR/>I read a story a couple of months ago about a survey conducted in Spain of young Spaniards. The overwhelming majority of respondents, I think it may have been as high as 60%, if I'm not mistaken, said they wanted to be civil servants. In another survey about employment in the private sector, the top company young Spaniards overwhelmingly said they wanted to work for was Telefonica. <BR/><BR/>Can you imagine the results of a similar survey in the U.S. of high school to college age students? Can you imagine more than 2% saying they'd want to work for the government and AT&T? Would never happen. More than likely the U.S. kids would mention a bunch of tech and entertainment companies. I doubt being a civil servant would even get 1% of responses. <BR/><BR/>The U.S. certainly has got its share of problems but at least young Americans generally know how to dream and dream big.EuroMadridhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06831670016972169962noreply@blogger.com